Engine Numbers

[Starsky]

The H1 engine crank case numbers. Are they a font or a generic number shape?

[SAM]

Dont do it

[gotz]

[Tony_d123]

Are you asking for a friend?

[Starsky]

Of course, nothing iffy going on. Crank case smashed beyond repair. Just thought it may be possible to restore numbers on another case. However, if this offends, will drop the idea. So, will keep looking for 13000 to 14000 upper H1 crankcase.

[Eric]

I see nothing wrong with that , you are keeping it`s original identity.

[doodah]

I remember I sold a pair of NOS replacement crankcases for an H1 years ago.
They had no number on them, you needed to stamp it yourself.

[scouse]

I don't get what the problem people have with this?

It's an old motorbike and he's not cheating anyone

He's not trying to flog a fake Rolex as a real one

I'm pretty certain it's not the 1st time or the last that engine and frame numbers have been stamped for a legitimate reason

My 2p
Gary T

[Tony_d123]

It's not a problem, we are just teasing

[scouse]

It's not a problem, we are just teasing

[Barrie]

If the cases are new and blank, fine .
If they are marked , it's not correct to remark them ,end of, in my opinion .
It is illegal to remark this item in my opinion, speak to the DVLA and ask them .
This item is a major traceable component therefore changing it's number is illegal, if it is on the DVLA database it will be seen to disappear.
Another further point is i do not think you will be able to replicate the font or the correct finish, this has been tried many times before and the overall results have been poor in most cases .This situation has normally been spotted when a knowing knowledgeable buyer has inspected the vehicle.

[Eric]

Why

[Barrie]

Why what?

[Peter Mac]

Happens all the time in the classic car world how many reshelled mini cooper’s , lotus tina’s and escort mexico’s are out there , even on bangers and cash the other day he said of a cooper its worth strong money just for the vins

[scouse]

Happens all the time in the classic car world how many reshelled mini cooper’s , lotus tina’s and escort mexico’s are out there , even on bangers and cash the other day he said of a cooper its worth strong money just for the vins

Totally agree, I've seen classic mini log books change hands for £3,000

Gary T

[Eric]

Happens all the time in the classic car world how many reshelled mini cooper’s , lotus tina’s and escort mexico’s are out there , even on bangers and cash the other day he said of a cooper its worth strong money just for the vins

Happens all the time in the classic car world how many reshelled mini cooper’s , lotus tina’s and escort mexico’s are out there , even on bangers and cash the other day he said of a cooper its worth strong money just for the vins

Totally agree, I've seen classic mini log books change hands for £3,000

Gary T

Why what?

There`s you answer.

[robh1f]

Calm down chaps......think I have a set of cases for Pete...

[Barrie]

It's Illegal to change major serial numbers on components.
Body number changes on old shells is easy , still illegal that's why shells are now marked in multiple places into the shell,
the same as making of new vin plates
,which only a very few people are licenced to do.
Just because such practices have taken place does not make it legal or correct.
This is not the correct conversation to be having on an open forum.
So my conclusion on this question is 1. Eric, you are complete prat. Starsky do not be lead by one or more of these people.
2.The modified number will look probably wrong
3.This is an illegal practice that has now been put in the public domain on this forum
4. I think site admin should now be stepping in before someone gets into a lot of hot water.
PS this thread has now been recorded by me , just to show some of us can be honest !

Happy now Eric!

[Mitsui Spy]

4. I think site admin should now be stepping in before someone gets into a lot of hot water.

Somewhat overstating the case there I think Barrie.

I have proof of a illegally re-stamped frame that is currently taxed and in use. The police do not care. The DVLA do not care. The DVLA issued me with a new number to replace the stolen one and told me to stamp the new numbers in place of the old ones.

Your virtue is duly noted though.

[robh1f]

OK everyone has had their "day in court"......like I said I have a set of cases......from Frank actually that are close to what Pete needs.......if that's allowed???? His top case is beyond repair so what is the guy going to do???

[Eric]

[quote="Mitsui Spy"][quote= The DVLA issued me with a new number to replace the stolen one and told me to stamp the new numbers in place of the old ones.

So the DVLA are crooks by aiding and abetting you.

[scouse]

[quote= The DVLA issued me with a new number to replace the stolen one and told me to stamp the new numbers in place of the old ones.

So the DVLA are crooks by aiding and abetting you.